WEBVTT 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:15.100 In many countries in the EU, the number of older people already 00:00:15.100 --> 00:00:17.400 outstripped the number of under-25s. 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:20.200 So we're not talking minorities here, 00:00:20.200 --> 00:00:24.100 we're talking majorities, and we're talking ignored majorities. 00:00:28.200 --> 00:00:30.100 The European Accessibility Act, 00:00:31.200 --> 00:00:33.400 it shouldn't be treated as a ceiling. 00:00:36.400 --> 00:00:39.100 It's, you know, it's being treated, 00:00:39.100 --> 00:00:45.400 I think, a little bit like this is the aim, but actually 00:00:45.400 --> 00:00:46.200 it's the bare minimum. 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:50.400 So you know, it represents, 00:00:50.400 --> 00:00:55.100 you know,the sort of lowest acceptable behaviour. 00:00:55.100 --> 00:01:00.200 It's very, very important, but we should see it, as, you know, 00:01:00.400 --> 00:01:04.000 a minimum aim rather than a maximum aim, because I think, as 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:09.200 we look at this sort of digitally dependent, rapidly ageing, diverse 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:13.600 Europe, that kind of mindset can hold innovation back if we're just 00:01:13.600 --> 00:01:15.600 doing the minimum requirement. 00:01:19.700 --> 00:01:21.600 If you were to design a tennis racket, 00:01:21.700 --> 00:01:26.400 for example, you would go to Serena Williams, 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:31.300 one of the best tennis players in the world. And people with disabilities, 00:01:31.700 --> 00:01:35.300 they push products, services, environments in the same way 00:01:35.300 --> 00:01:39.000 because they have extreme and different needs that make things 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:40.400 easy for the rest of us. 00:01:44.700 --> 00:01:46.600 We did a project with, you know, 00:01:46.600 --> 00:01:51.400 a hearing aids company once and they designed the most beautiful 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:55.300 hearing aid that could isolate a conversation in a crowded room. 00:01:56.100 --> 00:02:01.200 But to change the battery required you sticking a pin into a little 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:06.800 tiny hole and then the battery cover springs open and the 00:02:06.800 --> 00:02:11.400 battery, you know, bounces out and, you know, goes bunny-hopping 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:12.400 across the room. 00:02:13.100 --> 00:02:15.700 And when the engineer said, 00:02:15.700 --> 00:02:21.400 we said, "Why did you design such a difficult thing for 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:25.100 an 80-year-old, potentially with arthritis, to change?", and they said, 00:02:25.100 --> 00:02:26.400 "That wasn't in the brief". 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.100 So don't bring in a consultant, 00:02:33.300 --> 00:02:34.700 pay them lots of money, 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:36.700 you know, an accessibility consultant, 00:02:36.700 --> 00:02:39.700 pay them some money and then ignore what they say and just tick 00:02:39.700 --> 00:02:45.600 the box for the CFO, the CMO and the COO to say, "Yeah, 00:02:45.600 --> 00:02:46.400 we've done accessibility". 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:47.100 No, you haven't. 00:02:47.700 --> 00:02:49.800 Accessibility is when it's baked in. 00:02:50.200 --> 00:02:51.700 It's baked in the bread and you 00:02:51.700 --> 00:02:52.500 can smell it. 00:02:52.500 --> 00:02:54.300 And the bread bed is breaked, 00:02:54.300 --> 00:02:55.200 you can smell it. 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:56.800 Smell the accessibility. 00:03:01.600 --> 00:03:04.400 You cannot integrate something 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:06.300 into a company, genuine integration, 00:03:06.300 --> 00:03:12.100 unless you get over this barrier of KPIs and KPIs are are often used 00:03:12.100 --> 00:03:18.100 to signal, "We can't innovate in this way because it doesn't meet our KPIs". 00:03:18.500 --> 00:03:21.900 Do you know what Eva's idea was? Change the KPIs. 00:03:23.100 --> 00:03:26.900 It's really, really simple and we change KPIs to KPAs, 00:03:27.300 --> 00:03:32.300 key Performance Aspirations, not indicators but aspirations. 00:03:32.300 --> 00:03:34.600 So then it's, you know ,what you were saying, Karolina? 00:03:34.600 --> 00:03:37.600 It's aspirational, it's positive. 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:39.900 And that's genuine integration. 00:03:39.900 --> 00:03:44.000 So it doesn't say it's a goal, it's a target, it's a checklist, 00:03:44.600 --> 00:03:46.900 it's something that's evolving, it's moving. 00:03:46.900 --> 00:03:51.300 And I think that leads to better employee engagement, 00:03:51.300 --> 00:03:52.500 fewer complaints. 00:03:52.500 --> 00:03:55.200 It leads to customers engaging 00:03:55.200 --> 00:03:55.700 with you. 00:03:59.900 --> 00:04:01.600 Whenever I'm asked, "What's 00:04:01.600 --> 00:04:07.800 the one thing that you would change?", and my answer is always one thing. 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:12.500 It's the only thing that any of us on this planet can actually change. 00:04:12.900 --> 00:04:14.200 And that is yourself. 00:04:15.300 --> 00:04:17.899 So you be the change. 00:04:17.899 --> 00:04:21.700 To quote Gandhi, to paraphrase Gandhi, you be the change that you 00:04:21.700 --> 00:04:22.400 want to see. 00:04:22.900 --> 00:04:24.700 You live accessibility, you show 00:04:24.700 --> 00:04:26.700 accessibility, you prove it. 00:04:31.200 --> 00:04:33.600 So architects understand this 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:37.900 because they do a POE- Post Occupancy Evaluation of the building. 00:04:38.300 --> 00:04:40.900 You know, is it working for the people that are in it? 00:04:41.300 --> 00:04:45.800 Now, if you take those principles of a POE that architects, you know 00:04:46.100 --> 00:04:52.700 love or hate, and you apply it to how, you know that companies 00:04:52.700 --> 00:04:57.400 are actually mandated to measure how real people, often considered at 00:04:57.400 --> 00:05:01.700 the fringes, again, you know, by age, ability, gender, race, context, 00:05:01.900 --> 00:05:07.500 circumstance, social economic background, education, 00:05:07.500 --> 00:05:10.900 all of these things, neurodiversity, how do they 00:05:10.900 --> 00:05:16.100 actually experience your product, your service, your offering, your 00:05:16.100 --> 00:05:22.300 digital capability, your AI, you know, after compliance?.